I had a chance to sit down with China Miéville to tattle about his modish novel , Kraken , as well as his thought on nerd pop culture . turn out he ’s got some pretty strong view about JJ Abrams and Joss Whedon .
I look back Krakenhere , and member of the io9 script cabaret already had a chance to chaffer with Miéville online here , wherehe suffice many of our interrogative about his previous novel The City & The City at enceinte distance , so be certain to check it out .
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Because he love to work with genre conventions , I asked Miéville where he see Kraken ’s narrative of multiple apocalypse scenarios fitting into the fantasy and science fiction traditions .
He replied :
There ’s a magnificent snatch inLightby M. John Harrison where he has this idea about foreign starships that work according to physics that controvert our own – but they all work . I wish the theme of doing a fantastic version of that epistemological lawlessness . With contradictory theology , you ’re going to end up with a Darwinian struggle of competing truth , or a market of competing truths .
I ’m trying to treat that musical theme fairly cheerfully . Kraken is a drollery . It ’s a dim romp , a disorganized comedy . The cult collector are [ part of the humor ] . All of these ideas are old phantasy ideas : secret organizations in the police force , the calamary cult , the end of the earth . I wanted to acknowledge they were make idea and cheerfully riff on them .
In Kraken , Miéville inaugurate a new witching scheme , city magic , to the consistence of sorcerous systems he ’s already establish in late Word . I asked how he catch these system fitting together .
Miéville explained :
Each big magic system [ in my books ] is self contained and rigorous . They ’re literalizations of theories of how the world work on . But in Kraken , it feels unlike . The basis of magic in Kraken is about the persuasiveness of metaphor . If you’re able to say to the universe that this affair is like this other thing and slide from simile to metaphor , the universe will hear and will change its nature . I ’m accept the fashioning of link and literalise that as a magical force . . . it ’s sort of a D&Dification of [ Thomas ] Pyncheon .
Did he think of the vie cults as a metaphor for internecine arguments between left-of-center radical , which is a topic he ’s trade with in previous books ? He say no :
Not so much consciously . I ’m usually conscious about left political written material , like in The Iron Council . Consciously it was about debate between different theology . I would wish to forswear the comparison between leftist group and cults .
One of the ideas that Miéville deliver to repeatedly in books is the peculiar thaumaturgy of cities , so I ask him what just is the magic of city to his mind ? Why are cities such potent sources of magic in his work ?
I do n’t have any antic brainwave , but I think it ’s simply that cities to varying degrees are amazing palimpsests of history and cultures . They ’re coagulated together , a mixing of social norm . I care the temporal dislocation of urban center , where you get 17th century buildings next to twenty-first building in London . The world is divided between people who wish fractured mixed up stuff , and those who like clean aesthetic totality . I ’m more the former .
The majority of humanity now subsist in cities . They are the site of most political and financial driver – that ’s just a fact of saving . They are the site of this kind of chaotic aggregation of ideas that ’s going to translate into a sensation of the fantastic . That ’s why fantastic city fiction is so strong – it ’s about translating captivation into a innovative urban environment .
We began to talk about the difference between genre fabrication and literary fabrication , and somehow obtain onto the topic of JJ Abrams and Joss Whedon . Miéville feel that Abrams ’ career has been all about marketing , unlike Whedon . He order :
I ’ve never met [ JJ Abrams ] . I am not a appendage of his fan club or anti - fan club . I disliked Cloverfield a very great deal . I disliked Star Trek intensely . I think it was awful . And I imagine part of my trouble is that I feel like the human relationship between JJ Abrams ’ projects and geek culture is one of comparatively unloving repackaging – sort of cynical . I taste contempt in the air . Now I ’m not a kid – I acknowledge that all full-grown scifi projects are suffuse with the contempt of bad money for its own object audience . But there ’s something about [ JJ ’s projects ] that make me particularly uncomfortable . As compared to somebody like Joss Whedon , who – even when there are misfires – I find like me and loves me and is on some cultural level my brother and comrade . And I do n’t find that way about JJ Abrams .
And then , you cognise I just had to involve Miéville about jumbo monster . He ’s got a marvelous giant ocean demon in The Scar , and Kraken is filled with giant squid imagery . Turns out he has a special love of the revive Godzilla . Here is what he said – something that could sincerely only be captured on video :
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